Insulate Britain activist clashes with BBC caller ‘How does blocking the M25 stop that?!’

Nicky Campbell clashes with Insulate Britain spokesperson

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Tracey Mallaghan of Insulate Britain clashed with a BBC Radio 5 Live caller by the name of Matt who questioned the climate change group’s tactics. Ms Mallaghan said overseas territories were at risk of going underwater due to the temperatures rising and deplored the UK Government’s cut in foreign aid. Ms Mallaghan said the Marshall Islands would be engulfed by the oceans with caller Matt confused how blocking the M25 prevented that from happening.

Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, Matt rang into the show to share his thoughts on Insulate Britain.

Matt was not happy with the group’s protest and said the UK Government provides a lot of aid to other countries to help them with their development.

Ms Mallaghan pointed out the UK cut its foreign aid budget from 0.7 percent of GDP to 0.5 percent of GDP.

Matt agreed it had been cut “a little bit” but stressed there was “people dying from Covid” and justified the move.

Ms Mallaghan claimed emissions would lead to 2C of warming which would make “places like the Marshall Islands” go underwater.

A report from the World Bank suggests 40 percent of the buildings in the Marshall Islands’ capital of Majuro would be permanently underwater if the projected sea rise became a reality.

The islands are considered to be the most at risk of sea levels increasing.

Ms Mallaghan compared the sea rise to “genocide”.

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But Matt asked: “If you think stopping people on the M25 is going to stop the Marshall Islands sinking, I think you are so naive that you are wasting your time.”

Nicky Campbell was seen quietly laughing at the point made by Matt.

Ms Mallaghan said she felt she needed to disrupt as many people as she could to bring focus on the topic and said she did not want to carry out these protests.

Matt then asked Ms Mallaghan’s opinion on Insulate Britain stopping a truck from transporting insulation through its protests.

Ms Mallaghan rejected the criticism, comparing it to “peeing in a septic tank”.

Emma Smart was handed a four-month sentence on Wednesday alongside Ben Buse, Roman Paluch-Machnik, Oliver Rock, Tim Speers and James Thomas for taking part in a blockade on the M25 on October 8.

Ana Heyatawin and Louis McKechnie were jailed for three months with Ben Taylor given a longer sentence of six months “to deter (him) from committing further breaches” following submissions he made to the court.

Ms Smart pledged to carry out a hunger strike alongside her fellow jailed activists during her imprisonment.

The Insulate Britain protesters were jailed for breaching a high court injunction.

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